Thursday, February 18, 2016

A Reasonable Doubt

I was curious, so I Googled the book from the ad in the previous post, "Emunah: A Refresher Course." I found a website for the "Ani Maamin Project," which, though not well-developed, led me to a couple of videos on Youtube of shiurim given by the book's author. I think that the author, Rabbi Dovid Sapirman, coincidentally is one of the people I was sent to talk to when I started asking awkward questions in high school.

 I spent a number of afternoons over the course of few months talking with him, and he gave me some of his tapes to listen to. I remember being impressed by some of what he said, like prophecies that had come true and his argument that we see an Oral Torah is necessary, because even the Kaarites, who reject TSBP, had to use TSBP's definition of tefillin because the Torah's description in inadequate.  They just wore their black leather boxes between their eyes, because they interpreted "between your eyes" literally. Ha ha, those silly Kaarites, not realizing how foolish they looked using TSPB's interpretation of what tefillin are, and then wearing them wrong. (It's too bad for his argument that Kaarites don't actually wear teffillin at all.) Other stuff I was less impressed with, like his insistence on an unbroken mesorah despite the incidents in Navi of the Torah being rediscovered, or his failure to address what was then my central question, the circularity of knowing that Hashem was good because the Torah said He was good, and trusting what the Torah said was reliable because it was written by Hashem, Who is good.

I watched a couple of his videos, and the arguments that I was impressed with almost twenty years ago don't hold up.

His shiur was an hour of empty rhetoric, stories to make the audience feel good about themselves, the never addressed assumption that traditional Jewish sources are authoritative, and subtle and not-so-subtle implications that we are right and everyone else is wrong. For instance, he spoke about various trends that were once popular but now (at least according to him) seem silly. He specifically spoke about idolatry (getting the way that the ancients thought of idols completely wrong), and  more or less outright said that the same way we think of idol worship as silly, in the future people will think that accepting what science has to say about evolution and the development of the world is silly. He also told a lovely story about a Charieidi man's encounter with a kibbutznik with long hair who Rabbi Sapirman described as "safik chaya safik beheima, safik ish safik isha."

Despite the painfulness of some parts of the shiur, it was interesting to be transported back into that world and mindset again.

Rabbi Sapirman's video led me to a shiur by someone from Aish on the same subject. His was better, in that he made actual arguments, albeit never explicitly and all in the context of stories about celebrities he'd met. They were all the bad arguments we've all heard before. Pascal's Wager, the Kuzari Argument, equating the claim of millions of people witnessing matan torah (which comes from the Torah, a single source) with the claim of millions of people witnessing WWII (which comes from millions of sources such as letters, diaries, newspaper and newsreel accounts, and official documents), and so on.

This got me thinking. I should write an anti-kiruv book. Not a book against kiruv, but a book that is the opposite of kiruv books (does anyone have a better way to say that than, "anti-kiruv?). A book that works in the opposite direction of most kiruv books, and systematically goes from Orthodox Judaism to Judaism to God/religion in general to pragmatic arguments for being religious, and shows at each level why it is reasonable to be skeptical. The point wouldn't be to convince people to not be frum, but to show people who were skeptical that they're not crazy, that they're  not just evil kofrim controlled by their taivos, and that what they've been thinking is reasonable and defensible.

Then I realized that a book like that could never get published. The potential audience is tiny. And even if it could get published, I'd have to publish under a pseudonym or risk my acceptance in my community. While no one in my community cares what anyone thinks, I suspect that they might object to someone writing a book that attacks their whole belief system. Using a pseudonym means no promoting the book, which again means that it could never get published.

I could do it as a blog, one where I would write the book and post it section by section as I go along. The question there is whether it's worth the effort. Would anyone read it? Maybe if it was publicized on Facebook, but there I run into the anonymity problem again.  


Thoughts?

12 comments:

  1. Hi, I think as you mentioned a book like that would be appreciated by those with sincere questions and are still somewhat in the frum world and constantly hearing how they're ..., well you know. If you are not looking to make money on it, (which I think is a reasonable expectation) then can't it be put out as an ebook or blog posts anonymously? You can ask someone (or someones) who is already "out" on facebook to help get the word out. (Unfortunately that is not me). Hopefully the skeptic crowd will help spread the word.
    If you are able to blog anonymously there probably is a way to get the word and info out online. Kefirahoftheweek wrote a popular (I think) weekly blog for a year going through the parshios.
    Either way, I enjoy your blog posts. Hatzlocha!

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  2. Have you not seen my blog ? It is a work in progress. http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2014/04/some-reasons-to-reject-orthodox-judaism.html The closest thing to an anti kiruv book I have seen is Schimmel's and Gold's. I am not trying to brag - but I think my blog is superior to both those books visa via being anti - kiruv.

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    1. > Have you not seen my blog ?

      I'm thinking of something more systematic than a blog.

      > The closest thing to an anti kiruv book I have seen is Schimmel's and Gold's.

      Do you know the titles?

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    2. I am guessing this is Schimmel:

      http://www.amazon.com/Tenacity-Unreasonable-Beliefs-Fundamentalism-Truth-ebook/dp/B00VQVNCA2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1456158230&sr=8-5&keywords=schimmel+religion

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    3. Thanks. It looks interesting, and I've read a few similar books, but it's different than what I have in mind.

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    4. I have read Schimmel - even wrote a blog post about the book. I have seen Gold and mention him in one of my blog posts. Schimmel is not really about countering kiruv arguments. Gold does more of that, but incompletely. My blog tackles Schroeder, Kelemen, Gottlieb. Numerous other arguments.

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    5. I forgot to check 'notify me' here is Gold's book http://www.amazon.com/Bondage-Mind-Testament-Fundamentalism-Shackles/dp/0979640601

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  3. I would love to be able to recommend a book to help your average secular jew avoid being tricked into kiruv. As a former kiruv salesperson, I'd be happy to contribute a chapter to the book as well. I would make it mandatory reading for secular high school kids who may visit Israel or a college Hillel/Aish program. I'm not sure if this would be a chapter or another book altogether, but someone should document the thousands of disgruntled ba'al tshuvas who are now trapped in the OJ world wishing someone had told them that the kiruv movement is a scam.

    ACJA, your blog is excellent, but for some deep rooted sociological reasons, humans have always given more credence to a 'book' vs word of month or Internet. Of course, the greatest example of that is the Torah, that is somehow still being taken literally.

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    1. Thank you. About 30 years ago I intended to write a book 'Why I Am Not Orthodox Jewish', analogous to a a book I think I saw titled something like Why I am Not a Christian. Life got in the way, time constraints and was conflicted both ethically and emotionally about the enterprise.

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  4. Definitely would be a worthwhile book. What if you called it "Questions for Kiruv?" or something like that . . i.e. the implication that this is a dialogue, rather than a rebuttal? I think if you got a good illustrator, this would make a great graphic novel. I also think the book would be of tremendous value if you could make it in Yiddish.

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    1. Hi! Where have you been for the past couple of years?

      I was thinking of using the title of this post as the title of the book. I'm not aiming particularly at potential BTs, but at people who feel alone in their way of thinking, having been told their whole lives that any reasonable person would of course recognize OJ as the truth.

      I don't speak Yiddish, but that's an interesting idea.

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    2. @C. Laundry - I considered a graphic novel, but do not think it works. The issues are about science, academic studies, logic, evidence... and they to be wordy. Graphics would not contribute much to the dialogue and they waste plenty of space, Graphic Novels are great when pictures would help.

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